Maximum Adverse and Favourable ExcursionMAE

Maximum adverse excursion (MAE) is the largest open loss a trade showed before it closed; maximum favourable excursion (MFE) is the largest open profit. Comparing them across many trades helps judge whether stops are too tight or targets too close.

A trade's final result hides its journey. One winner may have been deep underwater before recovering; one loser may have been well in the money before reversing. MAE and MFE record those extremes so you can test whether stops and targets fit how your trades really move.

Category
Trading Psychology and Performance
Reading time
3 min
Also called
MAE, MFE, Trade excursion
Updated

MAE and MFE in plain words

MetaTrader 5's help defines MAE as the maximum size of a potential loss during the life of a position, and MFE as the maximum size of a potential profit during the life of a position.1

It adds that MAE best characterizes the use of a protective stop loss.1

Charts of MAE are especially useful for setting trailing stops.2

How to use MAE and MFE

  1. Record entry and extremes

    Log the worst and best open price for every trade.

  2. Convert to R

    Express MAE and MFE as multiples of initial risk with R-Multiple.

  3. Plot winners' MAE

    See how far winners usually go against you before working.

  4. Plot losers' MFE

    See how often losers were in the money first.

  5. Test stop changes

    TradeStation suggests stops that capture most winners while limiting profit erosion.2

  6. Re-test out of sample

    Confirm any change with fresh Backtesting data.

Worked examples

Example 1 — Stop too tight

Stop review

In 50 hypothetical trades, most winners dip 0.8R before working, but the stop sits at 0.6R.

Example 1 — Stop too tight — calculation
Typical winner MAE0.8R
Stop distance0.6R

Because MAE best reflects protective stop use, the data suggests the stop cuts many future winners.1

Example 2 — Giving back gains

Exit review

Many hypothetical losers reached +1.5R MFE before closing at −1R.

Example 2 — Giving back gains — calculation
Average loser MFE+1.5R
Average loser result−1R

Placing a trailing stop to limit profit erosion could keep some of those gains.2

Example 3 — Efficient exits

Exits efficient

A hypothetical system's winners close near their MFE.

Example 3 — Efficient exits — calculation
Average MFE+2.2R
Average exit+2R

An exit close to the MFE means you captured most of the move in your favour.1

MAE vs MFE

AspectMAEMFE
MeasuresWorst open lossBest open gain
Helps judgeStop placementTarget and exit placement
Warning signWinners need wide roomLosers were once winners
Typical toolStop or trailing stop reviewTake-profit or trailing review

Where it is used

Advantages and disadvantages

Advantages

  • Shows the path, not just the result.
  • Grounds stops in data.
  • Reveals gains given back.
  • Works with backtests and journals.

Disadvantages

  • Needs many trades to be reliable.
  • Easy to overfit stops to the past.
  • Requires intrabar data.
  • Ignores costs and slippage unless added.

Going deeper

Read as far as you need. Each level builds on the one before it.

Definitions

Beginner

MetaTrader 5 explains each position has a result plus MAE and MFE, the largest potential loss and profit during its life.1

Reading the plots

Intermediate

TradeStation's MAE graph shows realized profit or loss against drawdown, and it suggests a trailing stop that captures the majority of winning trades.2

Caution

Advanced

Capturing close to the full MFE is the ideal, but chasing perfection invites curve-fitting — re-test every change on fresh data.1

Common mistakes

  1. Tiny samples

    A few trades prove little.

  2. Overfitting stops

    Fit the past, fail the future.

  3. Mixing setups

    Compare like with like.

  4. Ignoring costs

    Add Slippage and fees.

Check your understanding

Test yourself before moving on. Each answer comes with an explanation.

Q1What does MAE measure?
Q2Losers often had high MFE. What might help?

Key points to remember

  1. MAE is the worst open loss.
  2. MFE is the best open gain.
  3. Use them in R multiples.
  4. They help tune stops and exits.
  5. Re-test changes on new data.

Frequently asked questions

Do I need software for MAE?

Many platforms report it; a journal works too.

Is a big MAE always bad?

No, some strategies need room.

How many trades do I need?

Enough for a stable pattern; more is better.

Further learning

Sources

This article is written in our own words. The sources below support the specific facts, rules and figures marked with a number in the text. Links open the original publisher’s page.

  1. MetaQuotes (MetaTrader 5 Help). Testing Report (opens in a new tab) Checked .
  2. TradeStation. Maximum Adverse Excursion (Graph) (opens in a new tab) Checked .

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